{"id":31024,"date":"2023-04-19T22:53:49","date_gmt":"2023-04-20T02:53:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.indianz.com\/News\/2023\/04\/19\/fireworks-as-secretary-haaland-faces-republican-critic-on-capitol-hill\/"},"modified":"2024-01-16T22:21:06","modified_gmt":"2024-01-17T03:21:06","slug":"fireworks-as-secretary-haaland-faces-republican-critic-on-capitol-hill","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/2023\/04\/19\/fireworks-as-secretary-haaland-faces-republican-critic-on-capitol-hill\/","title":{"rendered":"Fireworks as Secretary Haaland faces Republican critic on Capitol Hill"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"embed-responsive embed-responsive-16by9\">\r\n<div class=\" content_cards_card content_cards_domain_youtu-be\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"content_cards_image\">\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_image_link\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/gLnaOCcvZUc\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/plugins\/content-cards\/skins\/default\/content-cards-placeholder.png\" alt=\" - YouTube\">\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_title\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_title_link\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/gLnaOCcvZUc\">\n\t\t\t &#8211; YouTube\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_description\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_description_link\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/gLnaOCcvZUc\">\n\t\t\t<p>Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.<\/p>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_site_name\">\n\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/s\/desktop\/a2c91c03\/img\/favicon.ico\" alt=\"youtu.be\" class=\"content_cards_favicon\"\/>\t\tyoutu.be\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<figcaption class=\"figure-caption\">Indianz.Com Video: <a href=https:\/\/youtu.be\/gLnaOCcvZUc>Fireworks as Secretary Deb Haaland goes before Congress<\/a>\r\n<\/figcaption>\r\n<div class=\"h1-responsive\">Fireworks as Secretary Haaland faces Republican critic on Capitol Hill<\/div>\r\n<div class=\"date\">Wednesday, April 19, 2023<\/div>\r\n<div class=\"byline\">By Acee Agoyo<\/div>\r\n<div class=\"source\">Indianz.Com<\/div>\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nWASHINGTON, D.C. &#8212; \r\nA Republican lawmaker who was unable to derail Deb Haaland&#8217;s historic nomination as <a href=https:\/\/www.doi.gov\/secretary-deb-haaland>Secretary of the Interior<\/a> had somewhat of a meltdown as he came face-to-face with the Native trailblazer at a hearing on Capitol Hill.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n<a href=https:\/\/stauber.house.gov\/>Rep. Pete Stauber<\/a> (R-Minnesota) has made no secret of his support for a controversial copper mine on Ojibwe treaty territory in northern Minnesota. But he drew criticism as Democrats on the <a href=https:\/\/naturalresources.house.gov\/>House Committee on Natural Resources<\/a> accused him of mistreating Haaland at the lengthy hearing on Wednesday morning.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n&#8220;Has the time expired or is there more hyperventilation that we need to endure?&#8221; asked <a href=https:\/\/huffman.house.gov\/>Rep. Jared Huffman<\/a> (D-California) after <a href=https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/indianz\/rep-pete-stauber-r-minnesota?in=indianz\/sets\/examining-the-presidents-fy-2024-budget-request-for-the-department-of-the-interior>Stauber exhausted his time complaining to Haaland<\/a> about the proposed mine.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" allow=\"autoplay\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/1496406463&#038;color=%23ff5500&#038;auto_play=false&#038;hide_related=false&#038;show_comments=true&#038;show_user=true&#038;show_reposts=false&#038;show_teaser=true\"><\/iframe><figcaption class=\"figure-caption\">\r\nIndianz.Com Audio: <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/indianz\/rep-pete-stauber-r-minnesota\" title=\"Rep. Pete Stauber (R-Minnesota)\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cccccc; text-decoration: none;\" rel=\"noopener\">Rep. Pete Stauber (R-Minnesota)<\/a><\/figcaption>\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n<a href=https:\/\/grijalva.house.gov\/>Rep. Raul Grijalva<\/a> (D-Arizona), the highest ranking Democrat on the committee, didn&#8217;t like what he heard either. He asked for  Haaland, a former member of the <a href=https:\/\/www.house.gov\/>U.S. House of Representatives<\/a>, to be treated with respect as she testified about her department&#8217;s fiscal year 2024 budget request.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;We  have significant differences in terms of policy and philosophy on this committee, no question about it, said Grijalva, who  previously served as chair of the legislative panel with jurisdiction over Indian issues. \r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;But berating the Secretary or any witness that we have before us,  diminishing and demeaning the victim &#8212;  I mean the victim, exactly &#8212; I think is inappropriate and I would suggest decorum,&#8221; Grijalva said..\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nBut Stauber, whose voice became louder and louder as he questioned Haaland about the mine,  wasn&#8217;t happy with  Grijalva&#8217;s request for decency. He called for the ranking member&#8217;s words to be &#8220;taken down&#8221; &#8212; or stricken from the record of the hearing &#8212; implying that somehow he had been wronged.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;That&#8217;s factually inaccurate,&#8221; Stauber said before elaborating:\r\n&#8220;The fact that a member has berated the Secretary of Interior.&#8221;\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;That is factually correct &#8212; and that&#8217;s being charitable,&#8221; asserted Huffman, who is the <a href=https:\/\/democrats-naturalresources.house.gov\/subcommittees\/water-wildlife-and-fisheries>highest ranking Democrat on the  House Subcommittee on Water, Wildlife, and Fisheries<\/a>.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nThat&#8217;s when Stauber got even louder.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;Mr. Huffman, I spoke the truth with, with passion, and when you speak the truth with passion and protecting my constituents, it&#8217;s with passion,&#8221; Stauber said.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\nThe heated exchange prompted <a href=https:\/\/gosar.house.gov\/>Rep. Paul Gosar<\/a> (R-Arizona) to call for a &#8220;five-minute recess.&#8221; He had been running the meeting because  <a href=https:\/\/westerman.house.gov\/>Rep. Bruce Westerman<\/a> (R-Arkansas), the Republican chair of the committee,  had stepped out before Stauber went on his tirade.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;And we&#8217;re gonna find out what berate means,&#8221; Grijalva said as the gavel came down for the recess. \r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;All the definitions,&#8221; said Gosar.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" allow=\"autoplay\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/1496406454&#038;color=%23ff5500&#038;auto_play=false&#038;hide_related=false&#038;show_comments=true&#038;show_user=true&#038;show_reposts=false&#038;show_teaser=true\"><\/iframe>\r\n<figcaption class=\"figure-caption\">Indianz.Com Audio: <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/indianz\/rep-bruce-westerman-r-1\" title=\"Rep. Bruce Westerman (R-Arkansas), Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Arizona), Rep. Pete Stauber (R-Minnesota)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rep. Bruce Westerman (R-Arkansas), Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Arizona), Rep. Pete Stauber (R-Minnesota)<\/a>\r\n<\/figcaption>\r\n<P><\/P>\r\nSome fifteen minutes later, cooler heads prevailed &#8212; somewhat. While Grijalva apologized that  his general request for politeness was taken &#8220;personally&#8221; by Stauber, his Republican colleague offered no regrets for his treatment of Haaland.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;I just don&#8217;t want anybody to misinterpret, maybe my volume, for my passion. It&#8217;s not an insult,&#8221; said Stauber.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n&#8220;I will yield back and will continue with the proceedings,&#8221; Stauber concluded.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;I appreciate the cooperation of the committee to restore order in the committee,&#8221; said Westerman, who by this time had returned to the hearing room in the Longworth House Office Building.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\nBefore the hearing, Republican lawmakers had gone  out of their way to highlight Haaland&#8217;s presence. They noted that she hadn&#8217;t appeared before the committee in &#8220;nearly two years.&#8221;\r\n<P><\/P>\r\nSo it was no surprise  that Haaland would be in the hot seat <a href=https:\/\/www.indianz.com\/news\/2023\/01\/30\/republicans-vow-to-use-indian-country-committee-to-investigate-biden-administration\/>now that Republicans control the House of Representatives<\/a>. But in a repeat of her confirmation hearings more than two years ago, when Republicans in the <a href=https:\/\/www.senate.gov\/>U.S. Senate<\/a> raised their voices and slammed tables when asking questions, she remained calm and composed in responding to Stauber.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n&#8220;Congressman, it is my understanding that we made a decision in this area,&#8221; Haaland started saying before Stauber jumped in.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;Madam Secretary, I have to interrupt you,&#8221; Stauber said.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n<div class=row>\r\n<div class=col-7>\r\n <a href=\"https:\/\/www.indianz.com\/news\/2023\/04\/19\/fireworks-as-secretary-haaland-faces-republican-critic-on-capitol-hill\/debhaaland-51\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-31766\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.indianz.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/31\/DebHaaland.jpg\" alt=\"Deb Haaland\"  class=\"size-full wp-image-31766\" \/><\/a><\/div>\r\n<div class=\"col-5 align-self-end\"><figcaption class=\"figure-caption\">Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland at the Avi Kwa Ame National Monument in Nevada on April 14, 2023. Photo: <a href=https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/usinterior\/52825480638\/in\/album-72177720307585674\/>U.S. Department of the Interior<\/a><\/figcaption>\r\n<\/div><\/div>\r\n<P><\/P>\r\nStauber then accused Haaland, who is the first Native person to lead the <a href=https:\/\/www.doi.gov\/>Department of the Interior<\/a>, of failing to understand the facts about the   <a href=https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Twin_Metals_mine>proposed Twin Metals Mine<\/a>. He claimed that she had &#8220;no idea&#8221; what she was doing when she signed an order protecting the land from development.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nTribal nations in Minnesota in fact opposed the mining project, which is located in the <a href=https:\/\/www.fs.usda.gov\/visit\/destination\/boundary-waters-canoe-area-wilderness>Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness<\/a>. In signing the order  protecting the land in January, Haaland pointed out that it lies within the  1854 Ceded Territory of the Chippewa Bands.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\nWith Stauber&#8217;s frequent interruptions at the hearing, Haaland was unable to fully explain why she withdrew more than 225,000 acres Boundary Waters  in from mineral and geothermal leasing  for the next 20 years.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n\u201cProtecting a place like Boundary Waters is key to supporting the health of the watershed and its surrounding wildlife, upholding our tribal trust and treaty responsibilities, and boosting the local recreation economy,\u201d  Haaland said in a <a href=https:\/\/www.doi.gov\/pressreleases\/biden-harris-administration-protects-boundary-waters-area-watershed>news release on January 26<\/a>. \u201cWith an eye toward protecting this special place for future generations, I have made this decision using the best-available science and extensive public input.\u201d \r\n<p><\/p>\r\nTwo years earlier, as Democrat Joe Biden as about to take office as president of the United States in January 2021, Stauber began circulating a <a href=https:\/\/twitter.com\/indianz\/status\/1350848915210457091>letter calling Haaland&#8217;s historic nomination a &#8220;threat to America&#8217;s natural-resources based economy.&#8221;<\/a> He  said she would make decisions that would make the nation more reliant on &#8220;foreign sources&#8221; of energy.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\" content_cards_card content_cards_domain_twitter-com\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"content_cards_image\">\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_image_link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/indianz\/status\/1350848915210457091\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/11\/11\/qwsf8fwm_400x400-8.jpg\" alt=\"indianz.com (@indianz) on X\">\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_title\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_title_link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/indianz\/status\/1350848915210457091\">\n\t\t\tindianz.com (@indianz) on X\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_description\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_description_link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/indianz\/status\/1350848915210457091\">\n\t\t\t<p>Letter circulating on Capitol Hill claims nomination of Deb Haaland as Secretary of the Interior is &#8220;direct threat to working men and women and a rejection of responsible development of America&#8217;s natural resources.&#8221; It also mentions &#8220;foreign adversaries.&#8221; https:\/\/t.co\/FCrcHa19Px<\/p>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_site_name\">\n\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/favicon.ico\" alt=\"X (formerly Twitter)\" class=\"content_cards_favicon\"\/>\t\tX (formerly Twitter)\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\r\n<P><\/P>\r\nStauber&#8217;s letter left out any mention of the <a href=https:\/\/westerncaucus.house.gov\/news\/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=3834>proposed Twin  Metals Mine in his Congressional district<\/a>. That means he didn&#8217;t have to explain that the project is being backed by a <a href=https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Antofagasta_plc>foreign holding company<\/a> owned by a <a href=https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Andr%C3%B3nico_Luksic_Craig>foreign billionaire<\/a> who once <a href=https:\/\/dc.curbed.com\/2017\/4\/4\/15177278\/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-home-rent>rented his expensive home in Washington, D.C., to the daughter and son-in-law<\/a> of Republican former president Donald Trump.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nStill,  the omissions of information didn&#8217;t stop Republicans from sending out a news release after the end of Wednesday&#8217;s hearing &#8212; which lasted more than five hours &#8212; <a href=https:\/\/naturalresources.house.gov\/news\/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=413084>accusing Haaland of failing to answer<\/a> for &#8220;Reckless Spending&#8221; and an &#8220;Anti-American Energy Agenda.&#8221;\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nSince taking control of the House of Representatives at the start of the 118th Congress in January, Republicans have said they will use their power to investigate the Biden administration. But they have also said they will place a priority on economic development in Indian Country, an issue they tackled in the first hearing of  the <a href=https:\/\/naturalresources.house.gov\/issues\/issue\/?IssueID=5066>House Subcommittee of  Indian and Insular Affairs<\/a> last month.\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n&#8220;Our tribal nations must be able to pursue economic opportunities without our federal government making that process unnecessarily difficult,&#8221; said <a href=https:\/\/hageman.house.gov\/>Rep. Harriet Hageman<\/a> (R-Wyoming), a new member of Congress who serves as chair of the subcommittee for the 118th Congress. &#8220;We should look at ways to support infrastructure, internet access, and elimination of antiquated regulations that stall development.&#8221;\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nFollowing the initial hearing on <a href=https:\/\/naturalresources.house.gov\/calendar\/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=412809>economic development on March 1<\/a>, the subcommittee on <a href=https:\/\/naturalresources.house.gov\/calendar\/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=412937>March 24 took testimony on legislation that would make it easier for tribes<\/a> to lease, sell and transfer their lands. Tribes have frequently had to ask the U.S. government  for permission due to a <a href=https:\/\/www.justice.gov\/enrd\/timeline-event\/congress-passes-first-indian-trade-and-intercourse-act>federal statute that dates back to the late 1700s<\/a>.\r\n<p><\/p> \r\n&#8220;A very outdated statute, called the <a href=https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nonintercourse_Act>Indian Non-Intercourse Act<\/a>, prohibits Indian tribes from engaging in these types of real estate transactions without formal approval from either the Interior Department or the Congress,&#8221; Vice Chair John Williams of the <a href=https:\/\/www.auburnrancheria.com\/>United Auburn Indian Community<\/a>, base in California told the  subcommittee in written testimony. As a result, he said at least seven of the largest title insurance companies have adopted policies that make it harder for tribes to do business on their lands.\r\n<p><\/p><div class=\"mt-1 mb-1\"><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-layout=\"in-article\" data-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-8411603009680747\" data-ad-slot=\"6394965691\"><\/ins><script>(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<\/script><\/div><p><\/p>\r\nThe Biden administration said it supports <a href=https:\/\/www.congress.gov\/bill\/118th-congress\/house-bill\/1246>H.R.1246<\/a>, which allows tribes to lease their trust lands for up to 99 years without having to get U.S. approval. But <a href=https:\/\/www.bia.gov\/profile\/assistant-secretary-indian-affairs-bryan-newland>Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs Bryan Newland<\/a>, who serves under Secretary Haaland at the Department of the Interior, expressed opposition to <a href=https:\/\/www.congress.gov\/bill\/118th-congress\/house-bill\/1532>H.R.1532<\/a>, which would allow tribes to exercise more control over their fee lands without federal oversight.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n&#8220;The Non-Intercourse Act was passed to ensure that the federal government had an orderly process to acquire lands from Indians, and over the past two centuries, a significant amount of case law has been built on this act,&#8221; said Newland, a citizen of the <a href=https:\/\/www.baymills.org\/>Bay Mills Indian Community<\/a>. &#8220;Any legislation that would change the operation of the Non-Intercourse Act, however well-intentioned, may create more confusion around the status of Indian lands and inadvertently harm tribes in the process.&#8221;\r\n<P><\/P>\r\nCompared to the full House Committee on Natural Resources, the  subcommittee frequently acts in a bipartisan fashion when it comes to tribal affairs &#8212; Hageman introduced both H.R.1246 and H.R.1532. Stauber, notably, does not belong the panel.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nThe subcommittee&#8217;s third and most recent hearing, <a href=https:\/\/naturalresources.house.gov\/calendar\/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=412956>on March 29<\/a>, tackled the disparities in health care for American Indians and Alaska Natives in reservation, rural and urban settings. \r\n<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"h5-responsive sub\">House Committee on Natural Resources Notices<\/div>\r\n<a href=https:\/\/naturalresources.house.gov\/calendar\/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=413024>Examining the President&#8217;s FY 2024 Budget Request for the Department of the Interior\r\n<\/a> (April 19, 2023)<BR>\r\n<a href=https:\/\/naturalresources.house.gov\/calendar\/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=412956>\r\nChallenges and Opportunities for Improving Healthcare Delivery in Tribal Communities<\/a> (March 29, 2023)<BR>\r\n<a href=https:\/\/naturalresources.house.gov\/calendar\/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=412937>Legislative Hearing on H.R. 1246 and H.R. 1532 | 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