{"id":17665,"date":"2021-11-02T20:35:45","date_gmt":"2021-11-03T00:35:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.indianz.com\/News\/?p=17665"},"modified":"2021-11-02T20:35:46","modified_gmt":"2021-11-03T00:35:46","slug":"cronkite-news-navajo-mother-works-to-improve-maternal-care-for-native-women","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/2021\/11\/02\/cronkite-news-navajo-mother-works-to-improve-maternal-care-for-native-women\/","title":{"rendered":"Cronkite News: Navajo mother works to improve maternal care for Native women"},"content":{"rendered":" <a href=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/2021\/11\/02\/cronkite-news-navajo-mother-works-to-improve-maternal-care-for-native-women\/nicollegonzales\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-17667\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" data-attachment-id=\"17667\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/2021\/11\/02\/cronkite-news-navajo-mother-works-to-improve-maternal-care-for-native-women\/nicollegonzales\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/03\/nicollegonzales.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1200,800\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-title=\"Nicolle Gonzales\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Nicolle Gonzales, a Navajo nurse midwife and the founder and executive director of Changing Woman Initiative, poses for a photo at an indigenous doula training in Window Rock, Arizona, on Thursday, October 24, 2019. She believes it\u2019s important to have a safe space for Native women to talk about the health problems they face. \u201cThe things that women experience, we don\u2019t always talk about,\u201d she said. \u201cFor me, holding a space and creating a space allows women to have those conversations, but also to heal and to build collaboration and support beyond this training.\u201d (Photo by Delia Johnson\/Cronkite News)&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/03\/nicollegonzales-1024x683.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/03\/nicollegonzales.jpg\" alt=\"Nicolle Gonzales\"   class=\"size-full wp-image-17667\" \/><\/a> <figcaption class=\"figure-caption\">Nicolle Gonzales, a Navajo nurse midwife and the founder and executive director of Changing Woman Initiative, poses for a photo at an indigenous doula training in Window Rock, Arizona, on Thursday, October 24, 2019. She believes it\u2019s important to have a safe space for Native women to talk about the health problems they face. \u201cThe things that women experience, we don\u2019t always talk about,\u201d she said. \u201cFor me, holding a space and creating a space allows women to have those conversations, but also to heal and to build collaboration and support beyond this training.\u201d (Photo by Delia Johnson\/Cronkite News)<\/figcaption>\r\n<div class=\"h3-responsive font-weight-bold\">Q&#038;A: Navajo woman starts nonprofit to improve maternal health<\/div>\r\n<div class=\"date\">Tuesday, November 2, 2021<\/div>\r\n<div class=\"byline\">By Laura Bargfeld and Natalie Skowlund<\/div>\r\n<div class=\"source\">Special for Cronkite News<\/div>\r\n<div class=\"source-links\"><a href=https:\/\/cronkitenews.azpbs.org\/>cronkitenews.azpbs.org<\/a><\/div>\r\n<P><\/P>\r\nPHOENIX, Arizona &#8212;  When Nicolle Gonzales gave birth to her three children in a hospital setting, the care felt routine and mechanical. Having worked as a nurse with the Indian Health Service, Gonzales also noticed the gaps in support and accessibility that left many Native American women with insufficient care during pregnancy and birthing.<p><\/p>\r\nHer concerns drove her to become certified as a midwife and, in 2015, to launch the nonprofit <a href=\"http:\/\/www.changingwomaninitiative.com\/\">Changing Woman Initiative<\/a> to address maternal health disparities in Indigenous women. <p><\/p>\r\nThe U.S. faces higher rates of pregnancy related deaths than other developed nations, and Indigenous mothers are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/reproductivehealth\/maternal-mortality\/disparities-pregnancy-related-deaths\/infographic.html\">2 to 3 times<\/a> as likely to die as white mothers. The causes are multifaceted, but racism and <a href=\"https:\/\/jamanetwork.com\/journals\/jama-health-forum\/fullarticle\/2766339\">lack of access<\/a> are among the factors, experts say.<p><\/p>\r\nChanging Woman provides culturally centered care and birthing services both in tribal communities and at a new walk-in clinic in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The initiative also offers training and education so that more Indigenous women can help one another.<p><\/p>\r\nAs she settled in at her Albuquerque headquarters, Gonzales, who is Navajo, spoke with Cronkite News about the need for policy shifts around maternal health care and the importance of providing culturally appropriate services. The interview has been edited for brevity.<p><\/p>\r\n<figure><img itemprop=image src=https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/2019\/12\/17\/smudging.jpeg class=\"img-fluid wow fadeIn\"><\/img>\r\n<figcaption class=figure-caption>Nicolle Gonzales performs a smudging ceremony at doula training on the Navajo Nation in  this file photo from 2019. Smudging cleanses the body by burning herbs and plants in a shell and fanning the smoke around a person, like a smoke bath.   Photo by Delia Johnson \/ Cronkite News\r\n<\/figcaption>\r\n<\/figure>\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"h5-responsive sub\">What motivated you to start Changing Woman?<\/div>\r\nThe biggest push was feeling like our Native women needed advocacy on a higher level. I just didn&#8217;t feel I was making the changes I wanted to see as a nurse. (As a midwife), I felt like I could be in decision-making spaces and have a little bit more pull in the hospital setting to make decisions with Native families.<p><\/p>\r\nIt wasn&#8217;t until I was in midwifery school that I saw a more clear understanding of the health disparities that Native communities experience around birth care and services \u2013 so many gaps around culturally centered care, even just having family present for births, transportation, access to care. A lot of the research around maternal health is focused on death and dying, and really highlights diabetes and hypertension. \u2026 But there wasn&#8217;t a lot of discussion around why these were outcomes.<p><\/p>\r\nHaving worked in a hospital as a nurse and then as a midwife later in my career, it&#8217;s really hard to make some changes in systems that are already established. I felt like creating a nonprofit to do specific work around direct services, community outreach for training and, of course, policy advocacy work was really necessary. The initial goal was to start a birth center for Native families, and then it grew into something a lot bigger.<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\" content_cards_card content_cards_domain_twitter-com\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"content_cards_image\">\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_image_link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SisterSong_WOC\/status\/1376867553318854657\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/05\/exvt7zrxmaa8l6y.jpg\" alt=\"SisterSong: National Women of Color RJ Collective (@SisterSong_WOC) on X\">\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_title\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_title_link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SisterSong_WOC\/status\/1376867553318854657\">\n\t\t\tSisterSong: National Women of Color RJ Collective (@SisterSong_WOC) on X\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_description\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_description_link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SisterSong_WOC\/status\/1376867553318854657\">\n\t\t\t<p>All this month, we are sharing #WOCtoWatch \u2013 leaders making a difference. Today, we are featuring Nicolle Gonzales, the founder of @ChangingWomanIn, the first Native American led birth organization.<\/p>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_site_name\">\n\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/favicon.ico\" alt=\"X (formerly Twitter)\" class=\"content_cards_favicon\"\/>\t\tX (formerly Twitter)\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n<div class=\"h5-responsive sub\">What obstacles do Indigenous women face in getting proper care during pregnancy?<\/div>\r\nThere&#8217;s lots of little nuances. It can get into racism and implicit bias. \u2026 A lot of the care that Native women get is from non-Native providers. They work in a system that might be there for a limited time, and then they leave. When you get people coming in and out of those communities, there&#8217;s no ability to build trust. \u2026<p><\/p>\r\nIn some of these places where there are maternal health deserts, there aren&#8217;t a lot of services. \u2026 People have to travel long distances. It is really vital to engage those communities in learning those skills themselves.<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"h5-responsive sub\">What are some other barriers to appropriate maternal health care?<\/div>\r\nThe way private sector hospitals function, they try to fit in as many people as they can in a day. They could see 20 prenatal clients in one day, and women get 15 minutes, maybe, in that time to talk to their provider.<p><\/p>\r\n(Indigenous women) might have to travel a little bit further just to find a provider to see \u2013 that&#8217;s a barrier. Making an appointment to get seen \u2013 that could be a barrier.<p><\/p>\r\nThen there\u2019s the cultural differences, and seeing somebody outside of their community who may not be aware of traditional activities. A Native woman might miss an appointment, and it can be misconstrued that they\u2019re not interested or that they don&#8217;t want care because their commitment to their communities takes a lot of their time and maybe they don\u2019t get to all the appointments. But that blame and shame gets placed back on them. &#8230;<p><\/p>\r\nThere&#8217;s a lot of little obstacles that they have to overcome. \u2026 Maybe she has lots of kids. Maybe some of these clinics don&#8217;t have a lot of space for kids and don&#8217;t want them there. So how would they get to appointments if they had to always find child care? All of these little things add up, and it makes it more challenging for them to go out to get care.<p><\/p><div class=\"mt-1 mb-1\"><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-layout=\"in-article\" data-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-8411603009680747\" data-ad-slot=\"6394965691\"><\/ins><script>(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<\/script><\/div><p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"h5-responsive sub\">What policy changes would improve maternal care?<\/div>\r\nThe funding that goes into health services is made on a federal level. We&#8217;re not in those spaces to advocate for our needs, so we have to really rely on who&#8217;s currently in those positions of power in Washington, D.C. Sometimes those decisions don&#8217;t really align with what the community wants or asks, or they&#8217;re unaware of what&#8217;s happening in the trenches. \u2026<p><\/p>\r\nThe discussion about maternal health is just now emerging; it&#8217;s not something we&#8217;ve always talked about. Even during the pandemic, as the tribes were creating emergency response plans to COVID, the discussion around protecting pregnant women as a vulnerable group was not brought up in a lot of those places. \u2026 They did acknowledge young children, the elderly and people who have chronic illness as being more at risk for getting COVID, but they didn&#8217;t have any specific knowledge around women who are pregnant. That is a gap of knowledge and also contributes to why our outcomes are what they are, too.<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"h5-responsive sub\">Were there other effects related to the pandemic?<\/div>\r\nThe benefit of the pandemic is it highlighted these gaps in care that Native people experience in our communities. Being able to access care for women&#8217;s health became more of a problem because a lot of the hospitals and clinics closed services or limited their services. It\u2019s made it even more challenging for women to just come in to get care for anything.<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"h5-responsive sub\">What needs to happen to address maternal mortality in Indigenous communities?<\/div>\r\nI would say education. There&#8217;s lots of discussion around how women of color need to access prenatal care early and often, but there&#8217;s no reason or explanation as to why. I feel like that\u2019s why the midwifery model really makes that impact for improved outcomes for women. We spend a lot of time educating them on their bodies and what&#8217;s happening around nutrition. &#8230;<p><\/p>\r\nThere&#8217;s this history in Native communities where sterilization happened not too long ago. \u2026 Part of improving these outcomes includes informed consent \u2013 educating them on what labs are going to be drawn, what they\u2019re for and what we\u2019re giving them. The option to say yes or no. And if they do say yes, giving them time to think about it and be part of that decision. I feel like when that doesn&#8217;t happen, it contributes to poor outcomes.<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\" content_cards_card content_cards_domain_twitter-com\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"content_cards_image\">\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_image_link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/changingwomanin\/status\/1205542063619526657\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/05\/elryg_8uwaelw7g.jpg\" alt=\"Changing Woman Intiative (@changingwomanin) on X\">\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_title\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_title_link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/changingwomanin\/status\/1205542063619526657\">\n\t\t\tChanging Woman Intiative (@changingwomanin) on X\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_description\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_description_link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/changingwomanin\/status\/1205542063619526657\">\n\t\t\t<p>Today is the last day of the Indigenous Birth Assistant training. The only way we are going to address maternal health in Native\/Indigenous communities is if we train our own birth attendants. Remove the barriers. #skills, #indigenousbirth<\/p>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_site_name\">\n\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/favicon.ico\" alt=\"X (formerly Twitter)\" class=\"content_cards_favicon\"\/>\t\tX (formerly Twitter)\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n<div class=\"h5-responsive sub\">How has Changing Woman bettered the lives of the women you\u2019ve served?<\/div>\r\nIt empowered them to learn their traditions in their community about being a mother and raising their children in an Indigenous way. There are teachings in all of our communities about how to do this. It&#8217;s just we don&#8217;t always have access to that information, or some people don&#8217;t have a community of support, like we would like to assume. So our role is really just to create a space so that knowledge can be shared.<p><\/p>\r\nThe birth center\u2019s kind of a space where people can feel safe to have their babies and practice their traditions of birth. \u2026 It\u2019s done in a way that maybe it\u2019s not done in the hospital setting. But there\u2019s more and more women choosing to birth with us than at home. It\u2019s changing their perspective of their role in their community and their role as a mom for their babies, especially when it can be related to our traditions and our teachings about mothering and womanhood.<p><\/p>\r\n<STRONG>For more stories from Cronkite News, visit <A href=\"https:\/\/cronkitenews.azpbs.org\/?utm_source=referral&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=client\">cronkitenews.azpbs.org<\/A>.<\/STRONG><p><\/p>\r\n<HR><EM>Note: This story originally <a href=\"https:\/\/cronkitenews.azpbs.org\/2021\/10\/29\/navajo-woman-starts-nonprofit-to-improve-maternal-health\/\">appeared on Cronkite News<\/a>.  It  is published via a <A href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/3.0\/\">Creative  Commons license<\/A>. 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