{"id":10482,"date":"2021-04-20T17:30:05","date_gmt":"2021-04-20T21:30:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.indianz.com\/News\/?p=10482"},"modified":"2021-04-20T17:30:05","modified_gmt":"2021-04-20T21:30:05","slug":"native-sun-news-today-long-distance-running-on-decline-in-indian-country","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/2021\/04\/20\/native-sun-news-today-long-distance-running-on-decline-in-indian-country\/","title":{"rendered":"Native Sun News Today: Long distance running on decline in Indian Country"},"content":{"rendered":"<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1991\" height=\"1493\" data-attachment-id=\"10483\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/2021\/04\/20\/native-sun-news-today-long-distance-running-on-decline-in-indian-country\/robinwebber\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/20\/robinwebber.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1991,1493\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-title=\"robinwebber\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Pine Ridge Thorpes Cross Country team member Robin Webber (Courtesy Photo of Dale Pine Sr.)&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/20\/robinwebber-1024x768.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/20\/robinwebber.jpg\" alt=\"robinwebber\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10483\" \/>\r\n<figcaption class=\"figure-caption\">Pine Ridge Thorpes Cross Country team member Robin Webber  Photo courtesy  of Dale Pine Sr.<\/figcaption>\r\n<div class=\"h3-responsive font-weight-bold\">Where have the Native distance runners gone?<\/div>\r\n<div class=\"byline\">By James Giago Davies<\/div>\r\n<div class=\"byline\">Native Sun News Today Sports Editor<\/div>\r\n<div class=source-website><a href=https:\/\/www.nativesunnews.today\/>nativesunnews.today<\/a><\/div>\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nHERMOSA &#8212; It has been 57 years since Billy Mills won his gold medal at 10,000 meters in Tokyo, and for two decades before he ran, and for over four decades after he ran, Native runners were the dominant force in South Dakota distance running. That is no longer the case.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nIt is not just that individual performance has waned, or that teams stopped being competitive, it is much worse than that. The cross country programs across Indian Country have flat-lined. Participation is on life support and it is hard to blame the kids, the coaches, the schools, given how deeply competitiveness has deteriorated. The causes for the decline are not easy to identify or understand. \r\n<p><\/p>\r\nForty-one years ago Jeff Turning Heart of Cheyenne-Eagle Butte won the South Dakota Class A cross country championship, in a time three seconds faster than the State AA winner. He also won the 1600 and 3200 at the state track meet. While it is difficult to compare cross country times because the difference in the course and the weather can make for dramatic differences in performance, the overall times run by athletes in the Sixties and Seventies is not being routinely bested by the athletes of today, as it is in other sports. Turning Heart\u2019s best times in the 3200 for example, where we can track performance, are on average about 15 seconds faster than the winners of the last two 3200 state meet titles. \r\n<p><\/p>\r\nTo be fair, this decline is not restricted to Indian Country. Loren Kambestad was a three-time state cross country champion for Class B Bristol back in 1966-68. His son Marshall Kambestad was a state champion for Rapid City Stevens in 2004 and 2005. But Marshall admits he was never quite able to equal his dad\u2019s best performances. South Dakota distance running is declining across the board. South Dakota Public Broadcasting has not updated their cross country records archive since 2009. It appears as if people no longer care.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"embed-responsive embed-responsive-16by9\">\r\n<div class=\" content_cards_card content_cards_domain_youtu-be\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"content_cards_image\">\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_image_link\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/5F5iCsymMj0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/04\/maxresdefault-419.jpg\" alt=\"Incredible Moment As Underdog Billy Mills Wins 10,000m Gold - Tokyo 1964 Olympics\">\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_title\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_title_link\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/5F5iCsymMj0\">\n\t\t\tIncredible Moment As Underdog Billy Mills Wins 10,000m Gold &#8211; Tokyo 1964 Olympics\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_description\">\n\t\t<a class=\"content_cards_description_link\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/5F5iCsymMj0\">\n\t\t\t<p>\ud83d\udcfa Re-live ALL the incredible #Paris2024 action \u27a1\ufe0f https:\/\/go.olympics.com\/watch\ud83d\udcf2 Subscribe to @olympics: http:\/\/oly.ch\/Subscribe Watch highlights of one o&#8230;<\/p>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"content_cards_site_name\">\n\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/s\/desktop\/1daead2b\/img\/favicon.ico\" alt=\"YouTube\" class=\"content_cards_favicon\"\/>\t\tYouTube\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<figcaption class=\"figure-caption\">Olympics: <a href=https:\/\/youtu.be\/5F5iCsymMj0>Billy Mills Wins 10,000m Gold &#8211; Tokyo 1964 Olympics<\/a>\r\n<\/figcaption>\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nThere was a time when Native runners dominated in South Dakota, and this can be seen looking back over the record books. Although Joe Rush of Custer was able to reserve the trend with a 3200 meter win two years ago, Native faces running up front are a rare sight at any state track meet, or at the state cross country meet.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nSouth Dakota cross country competition began in 1946. In 1951-53 Flandreau Indian won the state title, as there was only one class. George Blackman of Cheyenne was the first state Native champion in 1951. Over the next 60 years Native runners would produce 45 state champions and 54 team champions. Native runners would also make key contributions to many non-Native state championship teams. \r\n<p><\/p>\r\nDale Pine has won a half dozen state cross country titles as coach of the Pine Ridge Thorpes, twice winning the state title three times in a row. He is a gruff, straight forward talker, and what you see is what you get. His boy Alex Pine was state champ in 2005. His best runner, Patrick Grass, won the state title in 2000, 2002, and 2003.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n\u201cWe can\u2019t do it the way we used to do it,\u201d Pine said. \u201cThe coaches are hampered on our training. We\u2019re hampered on getting kids to do stuff; there\u2019s always other things they want to do.\u201d\r\n<p><\/p>\r\nPine now presides over a program that like all other reservation programs is a shell of what it once was. On top of that, COVID has shut down his school\u2019s participation in all sports, and socially isolated his kids. It was like tossing kerosene on a burgeoning fire.\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n\u201cAll these other activities they do, all these phones, and computers,\u201d Pine said, \u201cwe didn\u2019t have all that stuff back then. We weren\u2019t talkin\u2019 on the phone all the time, messaging people, playing games. We were talkin\u2019 about havin\u2019 fun, hangin\u2019 out together. Anymore you see kids on the bus, and they\u2019ll be texting kids five, six seats back, instead of talkin\u2019 to \u2018em.\u201d\r\n<p><\/p><div class=\"mt-1 mb-1\"><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-layout=\"in-article\" data-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-8411603009680747\" data-ad-slot=\"6394965691\"><\/ins><script>(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<\/script><\/div><p><\/p>\r\nDale Pine, Jr., also ran for Pine Ridge. He mentions David Tuttle, a current runner for Pine Ridge (\u201cHe\u2019s been a dedicated runner for my pops\u201d), but Tuttle has now lost a year to COVID and the team has lost the chance to learn from his dedication and focus. \r\n<p><\/p>\r\n\u201cWhen I was in high school,\u201d Pine, Jr. said, \u201cThere were a lot of running camps in the summer, Pine Ridge students would be eager to go to places like Black Hills State, New Mexico, and on road runs. It\u2019s hard now to even get one.\u201d<p><\/p>\r\nDale Pine, Sr., didn\u2019t win all those championships just standing and watching gifted Thorpes run. There is a system to all long-term success. Luck is no more likely to repeatedly strike the same spot than lightning is.<p><\/p>\r\n\u201cYears ago, I would go to each guy\u2019s house that I knew had an interest in it,\u201d Pine said. \u201cI\u2019d talk to his family. Now you\u2019re not allowed to do that. Our school doesn\u2019t allow us to take a vehicle. Our school doesn\u2019t want us dropping kids off and makin\u2019 \u2018em run. They want \u2018em to have water. They don\u2019t want \u2018em to ride too far. They think we\u2019re being hard on \u2018em. Everything has changed. We\u2019re making the kids soft.\u201d<p><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"card mb-3\">\r\n  <div class=\"row\">\r\n    <div class=\"col-md-4\">\r\n      <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nativesunnews.today\/\">\r\n\t\t  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/indianz.com\/News\/2016\/09\/12\/nativesunnewstoday.png\" class=\"img-fluid\" alt=\"native sun news today\"\/>\r\n\t\t<\/a>\r\n    <\/div>\r\n    <div class=\"col-md-8\">\r\n      <div class=\"card-body\">\r\n        <h5 class=\"card-title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nativesunnews.today\/\">NATIVE SUN NEWS TODAY<\/a><\/h5>\r\n        <p>\r\n           Support Native media!\r\n        <\/p>\r\n\t\t<p>Read the rest of the story on Native Sun News Today: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nativesunnews.today\/articles\/where-have-the-native-distance-runners-gone\/\">Where have the Native distance runners gone?<\/a>\r\n\t\t<\/p>\r\n\t\t<p>\r\n\t\t\t<div class=\"source-links\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nativesunnews.today\/\"><i class=\"fas fa-link fa-xs\"><\/i> nativesunnews.today<\/a>\r\n&nbsp;<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/nsweekly\"><i class=\"fab fa-facebook fa-xs\"><\/i> nsweekly<\/a>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\t\t<\/p>  \r\n      <\/div>\r\n    <\/div>\r\n  <\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<P><\/P>\r\n<HR><EM>Contact James Giago Davies at skindiesel@msn.com<\/em><HR>\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n<strong>Note: Copyright permission <A href=\"https:\/\/www.nativesunnews.today\/\">Native Sun News Today<\/A><\/strong>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Native runners were once the dominant force in South Dakota distance running. 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